Tuesday, 22 May 2012

Secular Café: How much water would it take to flood the earth?

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How much water would it take to flood the earth?
May 22nd 2012, 20:47

I have looked and looked and I can't find any reliable examples of how much water it would take to flood the earth to three cubits above the tallest mountain, which is 29,000+ feet tall. As math isn't my strong suit, I'm hoping someone here has seen an answer to this question, or can do the math to figure it out. Perhaps a good first step would be to forget the land, and just figure from sea level to 29,000 feet. How much water would that be?

I have posted articles on the many civilizations and cities that were around before, during and after the great flood was supposed to happen, but the god bots put their fingers in their ears and go la, la, la. So it would be nice to dump some more true info that dis proves again their Abrahamic God/religion biz beliefs.

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Secular Café: Pope on secularism: a study in hypocrisy?

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Pope on secularism: a study in hypocrisy?
May 22nd 2012, 11:59

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/sto...ns/1202087.htm

I was particularly amused by this

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In particular, Pope Benedict called Catholics to the front lines in defense of "that most cherished of American freedoms, the freedom of religion," which he said was especially threatened by "concerted efforts" against the "right of conscientious objection ... to cooperation in intrinsically evil practices."
He doesn't allow freedom of conscience to American nuns. See this thread

http://www.secularcafe.org/showthread.php?t=19803

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Secular Café: The evils of the internet

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The evils of the internet
May 22nd 2012, 07:46

Watch the video in this report and work out your own answer to why they don't like the net.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18155404

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Monday, 21 May 2012

Secular Café: North Carolina Pastor: Put Gays in Concentration Camps.

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North Carolina Pastor: Put Gays in Concentration Camps.
May 22nd 2012, 03:06

Seriously. What. the. Fuck!!!! He thinks it's OK to say this?

link


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If hate had a voice and a face, it might just look and sound like Charles L. Worley of Providence Road Baptist Church. Located in Maiden, North Carolina, Worley, who I will not refer to as "Pastor" because he is unworthy of that title, gave a sermon in which he railed against President Obama's "coming out" in favor of same-sex marriage. The anger and loathing was palpable:


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Originally Posted by fucktard
I ain't gonna vote for a baby killer and a homosexual lover! You said "did you mean to say that?" You better believe I did! God have mercy! It makes me pukin' sick to think about…I don't even whether to say this in the pulpit or not…can you imagine kissing some man?

But the worst part was a minute earlier when Worley unveiled his master plan to rid the world of The Gay:


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Originally Posted by fucktard
"Build a great, big, large fence…150 or 100 mile long…put all the lesbians in there, fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing for the queers and the homosexuals (Is there some difference I'm unaware of? – FLS) and have that fence electrified so they can't get out… feed'em and you know what? In a few years, they'll die out… do you know why? They can't reproduce!"


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Sound familiar? It should. The Nazis had the same idea for the Jews. They called it The Final Solution. Round up all the "undesirables" which were predominantly Jews but also included homosexuals, Negroes and Gypsies (among others) and put them into camps with fences. Then starve them, then just kill them. Does that sound like I'm exaggerating Worley's hate? May I remind you that the Nazis did not start off with genocide? It was a gradual escalation of atrocity. First it was deportation, then isolation in ghettos, then concentration camps and then mass murder. These are the words of a monster than thinks homosexuals are subhuman. This is where hate crimes are born; in the words of a petty tyrant of the pulpit urging his followers to despise others for their differences. If I believed in Jesus, I would be certain that he is somewhere hanging his head in shame at the horrors spoken of in his name.

Don't forget the tattoos, Worley. If you're going to advocate a repeat of history's greatest atrocity, you might as well be authentic about it.

HERE is the Church Phone number compliments of their web site…Feel free to give them a ring or two…
Church Telephone: 828-428-2518
If you prefer to EMAIL the Pastor instead or in addition to a wonderful phone call I am sure he would love to hear from you…preacherworley@charter.net.
Let them know how you feel.

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Secular Café: How the RCC is getting it wrong

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How the RCC is getting it wrong
May 21st 2012, 17:57

Frankly, I hope they go on getting it wrong. That way they'll go on alienating Catholics.

http://www.pennlive.com/editorials/i...e_is_stil.html


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There is a lesson here that seems to be missed in the Catholic Church's male culture and by the bishops formed in it. Some of the least insightful bishops reprimanded Sister Carol Keehan for standing with and protecting pregnant women whose lives were threatened by a developing fetus.

These bishops were theologically unsophisticated, but even worse was their naivete in thinking that they could push around Catholic sisters and child-bearing women with their reprimands and threats to withdraw Catholic status from hospitals if abortion is permitted when a fetus puts the mother's life in danger.

The level of naivete demonstrated by those bishops could come only from celibate men who have had no close experience with women.
Catholic laypersons who thought that such foolishness would not be repeated were quickly disappointed. Some even more naive bishops are now trying to bully the entire community of American sisters (Leadership Conference of Women Religious)...

...According to unofficial reports coming from inside the Vatican, Cardinal Law is joined in his crackdown by Cardinal Raymond Burke, the former Archbishop of St. Louis. Archbishop Burke, too, was pressured to leave his diocese and given a new post inside the Vatican...

...How could two ultraconservative cardinals, with legacies of tragic mistakes, now be permitted to turn their flawed judgments against hardworking sisters throughout the U.S.?

Fellow American bishops followed up the cardinals' criticisms of nuns with their own criticism and inquiry into Girl Scouts. The more bishops and cardinals say about female issues and sexuality, the stronger a case is made for church silence. The only alternative would be an open dialogue with women.

Communities of Sisters and Girl Scout troops might have weaknesses and need reforms, but such reforms cannot be carried out by old men.

The Vatican had better get women into positions of power and authority if it wants to address, in a meaningful way, problems in congregations of sisters and Girl Scout troops.

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Secular Café: We will pick up your VAT bill, Chancellor tells the Church

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We will pick up your VAT bill, Chancellor tells the Church
May 21st 2012, 16:09

http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2012...+News+Daily%29

This is just plain wrong.....

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Places of worship have been singled out for preferential treatment following the removal of the zero VAT rating concession for alterations to listed buildings announced in the budget.

A concerted campaign by churches has led to the Chancellor agreeing to set aside £30 million per annum to compensate places of worship for the extra VAT resulting from the withdrawal of the concession. The government's offer is on top of £12m already provided to the Listed Places of Worship Grant Scheme (LPWGS). No equivalent money is to be made available to listed secular buildings.

The Church of England has welcomed the government offer to fund alterations and repairs to the Church's 12,500 listed buildings.

The National Secular society, while accepting listed churches are important cultural icons, has argued that they should not be singled out for preferential treatment.

Keith Porteous Wood, Executive Director of the National Secular Society said: "Places of worship should take their share of the pain, or some more money found for secular buildings."

This view was echoed by Shadow culture secretary Harriet Harman. While welcoming the £30 million, she said: "This Government's U-turn is a victory for the campaign by churches and local communities against a wrong-headed proposal in the shambolic Budget.

"But it won't help the National Trust, all the museums, galleries, theatres, libraries and community centres that are in listed buildings, and which are important for heritage, tourism and local communities."

Mr Porteous Wood said: "Like Harriet Harman, we believe secular listed buildings deserve relief rather than being once more denied privileges meted out to listed places of worship.

"We do not share the prevalent view that churches deserve special concessions denied to other listed buildings. The Church Commissioners assets' total around £3 billion, mostly in prime investment properties earning juicy returns. And many cathedrals charge very hefty entrance fees. Places of worship already receive vast sums from government, lottery and many other grant making bodies. And very substantial sums should be being generated from the sale of the many redundant churches without architectural merit."

It seems clear from the comments being made by church representatives that the ultimate aim is for the state to take over complete responsibility for the upkeep of churches. The wife of the Dean of Wakefield, Pamela Greener, said that the £30 million did not provide a long-term solution, and called for further discussions. "It would be churlish not to welcome the Government's increased funding, following their shock Budget tax raid on the nation's heritage," said told the Church Times. "So, although I am grateful to the Chancellor and his team for listening to the outcry they pro*voked, I urge the Church not to build its house upon the sand of the Listed Places of Worship Scheme — which is not based in law and therefore has an insecure future."

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Sunday, 20 May 2012

Secular Café: Jesus on a popsicle stick!

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Jesus on a popsicle stick!
May 20th 2012, 13:45

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...nce/?hpt=us_t5



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An image of Jesus Christ positioned traditionally on the cross is visible once the ice pop is consumed. As for the frozen wine, Errazuriz said, he concealed it in a cooler and took it into a church, where it was "inadvertently blessed by the priest while turning wine into the blood of Christ during the Eucharist."
Heh. "Inadvertently blessed." :D

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